This article has some predictions about technology (and other sector) jobs moving out of the states and to foreign soil.
This has become a hot topic where I currently work. We already have a "team in India" that we contract quite a bit of work out to. And several places that I have worked in the last 4-5 years have had at least some tertiary involvement with outside contractors that were not based in the states.
While this is a little disconcerting for a Java developer such as myself, I am honestly not all that alarmed. Even when the linked article shows over 100K jobs moving abroad, I still dont panic.
The reason is that I consider this to be the free market and a fair system. If companies CAN get what I do done at a much cheaper cost overseas and doing so helps those companies succeed than so be it. I think that is easier said in concept than done, but again, more power to them if it can be done. How many UAW workers do you hear professing that?
I think that employees need to protect THEMSELVES rather than have the government or some silly union try to do it for them. What I mean is adapt and dont become replaceable. My job involves more than just typing in code, it involves architecture and original thinking, thats where I think I am at least partially set apart. I think it will be VERY hard to separate design and architecture and outsource it, unless of course entire ventures are outsourced and even then they are oft dictated by a design.
I think that an employee has to demonstrate to a company why they need to be there and to be a part, if they cant, then their jobs should be, and will be, in jeopardy. Its just the free market at work.
Also, as to technology jobs, I think people will in the long run learn that "you get what you pay for" is true. I dont think 100K jobs are leaving because I dont think you can manage that successfully and get the quality results that companies will require. With software development this becomes extremely important. It doesnt just have to work, it has to work well and it has to be maintainable and extensible going forward.
Companies will likely get some stuff done abroad but for the most part I think jobs that require actual thinking and or that put at least some emphasis on quality will not be lost (and this is not a jab at the quality of foreign software work, its a realistic look at managing ANYTHING from a distance of continental miles, it can be done, but not as well as with better contact, not to mention communication issues).
For more see the linked article.
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Re: Will YOUR job move to India?
I've worked with foreign contractors through two different situations.
The first was the send of the specs and then be able to use what they sent back out of the box. Total disaster. We couldn't use anything that they sent back. If there were *any* questions/opening in the spec, they made their own decisions and never once requested clarification. I believe that both parties were at fault, both the US manager and the off-shore development, but in the end it was the US company that got screwed. It ended up costing 80% of the man-hours of the project to just interface and get the off-shore solution barely functional (It was later scrapped altogether.)
The second was an off-shore contractor company that brought over its people to work in your office. This time I was more involved with the details as I was the one overseeing the contractors. I can honestly say that with the language barriers, the severely overhyped resumes of the contractors and the general unconcerned attitude of the contractors, I will probably fight tooth and nail should any manager I work for suggest this. It simply didn't work out and I ended up doing the work anyway.
That said, I hear more and more of this kind of talk. Even after getting burned the way they did, the company in question is *still* considering going off-shore. It's just that much cheaper, and they are that short sighted. With the stock market as the driving force on business decisions, the thing that scares me is that it will be a while before the whole market realizes that "hey, maybe a sweatshop ain't the best way to develop a usable application."
Until that realization hits, I'm a little more concerned than you appear to be. I know what I can do. It's getting potential employers to let me in the door to show them what I can do that's the hard part.
Re: Will YOUR job move to India?
I'm not sure what to think about this - I have a feeling that these issues won't affect us as much as our children - sure the first series of jobs sent offshore have problems, and hell, we can't get 5 developers in house to communicate and work effectively on projects as a team - but these things tend to roll on and improve over time. Lately it seems that every article regarding Oracle is written by someone with an Indian sounding name so if you can architect a database from India, why not architect an application. Of course I'm still freaked out by that [url=http://marshallbrain.com/robotic-nation.htm]50% unemployment by 2055 article[/url]. All this stuff is depressing to think about...I need a drink.
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Re: Will YOUR job move to India?
mutt your experiences are very similar to mine. i have not been in charge of any contractors as such but have worked with and or had to work with the resulting software and it has never really been worthwhile.
yet companies still insist, i agree with this, companies are market driven and short sighted, for now.
my feeling is that companies will play the outsource game a few times and then learn the hard way. and of course they will still need good people to oversee and design things.
and i also believe that free market forces will be at play, even in india or other foreign markets. sure it could take a long time but if everything gets outsourced to india then that economy will change and workers there will start getting higher wages for their better standard of living and so on. then the playing field will start to level back as the market dictates.
that coupled with the fact the overall software projects are expected to increase at a rate greater than the expected migration of jobs, makes me not to worried about it. (Until someone perfects the automated software automation automater.)
sure it might even affect me directly from time to time, at companies that arent as smart and dont recognize the difference (are short sighted), but i dont think it will keep me from getting employment altogether.
Re: Will YOUR job move to India?
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