We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear - one, of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of un-reason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men; Not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were - for the moment - unpopular.
I just had to install Win2K on a work machine (I'm no techie, just know how to do it. It took hours to update, all incremental updates on after another, reboots in between, what a pain in the arse.
Did the same with Ubuntu, all the updates in ne go one reboot to use the new kernel and voila! Job done.
Yeah I now have both a Win2K and a SuSE Enterprise 9 machine (sep machines, not VMWare, etc) at the office (both get used as "desktops" - the SuSE machine is really a dev server - but does have the whole SuSE KDE thing).
Same exact hardware (Dell - same model - same RAM, etc) - and the SuSE machines kicks the windows machines "arse" in terms of bootup speed, install of updates, stability (uptime and in general) and in my opinion development environment (something about a native Bash shell, native utils like grep, sed, awk, so on - that I much prefer over DOS - or DOS with Cygwin etc).
I find myself using the SuSE machine purely as a "desktop" more and more - usually when the Windows machine is thrashing on some code or saying it needs more updates and needs to be restarted (which seems to be literally 3-4 times a week - I do every update - every time it tells me - well that is when they work ;)).
Linux has always been my preffered platform, for a plethora of reasons, when it comes to servers, and while I have used Linux as a desktop many times over the years (for several years at a previous job it was my only desktop) I still really held that Windows was better. Windows still has some advantages, more software avail, still a bit "cleaner" look and feel, but overall I think Linux on the desktop is presently very good and certainly completely capable.
(Props to SuSE and to KDE - I hadnt used them in a while - SuSE since like 5-6 days, the recent revs of both are OUTSTANDING.)
First of all - All Hail Novell (lets get that stock price up)
Now onward - Win2K is not XP Pro. You are talking about a really old OS. I am managing updates for our network now (~100 WinXP and a few W2K machines) via Windows Update Services - it's web based, updates Office as well as Windows (Ok - I am chicken to try this so have not done the Office thing yet). I push updates out no more than once a week, usually every couple of weeks between updates. If the user leaves there machine on at night I update at 3am so everything is done when they come in. It really is quite sophisticated and working ok (some updates do seem to fail and retry over several days before completing wft?). The desktop experience is much richer and the fact that I can manage real useful items via group policy rocks.
My preference would be to use Mac as my desktop - but that seems to be a ways off.
Eh, I dont really count the "cause its old" thing as an excuse. Its still officially supported (critical updates anyway) and its still blaring at me that it needs updates (its not some random update I went and located and tried to apply against the machines "will"). The updates it blares at me that it needs, should damn well work. Then if they DONT work they shouldnt keep trying every ten minutes. This thing has hosed a ton of computers at my office, they still run, but they all have the little updates icon, whether or not you tried to update, the updates fail, then the machine says it needs rebooted, after reboot it says it needs the same failed update.
Old or not, thats retarded, and all the credit goes to Windows and to MS, credit where due man.
Yes, yes, point taken. I'm not defending them, just thought I would point out that there has been progress made in the whole update thing from my point of view. I'll try to keep my posts more MS negative in the future :P
A helpline in South Yorkie County is at the centre of a sex scandal after leaked reports revealed they have been investigated on numorous occasions for sexually harrassment.
Other reports say the helpline Sheffield Gayphone drove a British Actor out of the City of Sheffield after they launched a hate campaign against him and sent death threats.
The South Yorkie County helpline has already been under scrutiny after a government website revealed they had received £10,000 grant from the UK National Lottery Charities Board. The authorities have also revealed they give them £2000 a year, but despite complaints about sexual harrassment continue to receive this grant.
People in the County of South Yorkie are angry and want answers.
The helpline has been laughed at in the past for claiming they run a professional service but their helpline number ends in 69 69.
Just do a google search on Sheffield gayphone, how appalling
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RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
Now I permanently have the little update system tray icon. I try to update, it fails, I reboot, it says I need an update again.
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
I just had to install Win2K on a work machine (I'm no techie, just know how to do it. It took hours to update, all incremental updates on after another, reboots in between, what a pain in the arse.
Did the same with Ubuntu, all the updates in ne go one reboot to use the new kernel and voila! Job done.
I hate Windows.
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
Yeah I now have both a Win2K and a SuSE Enterprise 9 machine (sep machines, not VMWare, etc) at the office (both get used as "desktops" - the SuSE machine is really a dev server - but does have the whole SuSE KDE thing).
Same exact hardware (Dell - same model - same RAM, etc) - and the SuSE machines kicks the windows machines "arse" in terms of bootup speed, install of updates, stability (uptime and in general) and in my opinion development environment (something about a native Bash shell, native utils like grep, sed, awk, so on - that I much prefer over DOS - or DOS with Cygwin etc).
I find myself using the SuSE machine purely as a "desktop" more and more - usually when the Windows machine is thrashing on some code or saying it needs more updates and needs to be restarted (which seems to be literally 3-4 times a week - I do every update - every time it tells me - well that is when they work ;)).
Linux has always been my preffered platform, for a plethora of reasons, when it comes to servers, and while I have used Linux as a desktop many times over the years (for several years at a previous job it was my only desktop) I still really held that Windows was better. Windows still has some advantages, more software avail, still a bit "cleaner" look and feel, but overall I think Linux on the desktop is presently very good and certainly completely capable.
(Props to SuSE and to KDE - I hadnt used them in a while - SuSE since like 5-6 days, the recent revs of both are OUTSTANDING.)
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
First of all - All Hail Novell (lets get that stock price up)
Now onward - Win2K is not XP Pro. You are talking about a really old OS. I am managing updates for our network now (~100 WinXP and a few W2K machines) via Windows Update Services - it's web based, updates Office as well as Windows (Ok - I am chicken to try this so have not done the Office thing yet). I push updates out no more than once a week, usually every couple of weeks between updates. If the user leaves there machine on at night I update at 3am so everything is done when they come in. It really is quite sophisticated and working ok (some updates do seem to fail and retry over several days before completing wft?). The desktop experience is much richer and the fact that I can manage real useful items via group policy rocks.
My preference would be to use Mac as my desktop - but that seems to be a ways off.
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
Eh, I dont really count the "cause its old" thing as an excuse. Its still officially supported (critical updates anyway) and its still blaring at me that it needs updates (its not some random update I went and located and tried to apply against the machines "will"). The updates it blares at me that it needs, should damn well work. Then if they DONT work they shouldnt keep trying every ten minutes. This thing has hosed a ton of computers at my office, they still run, but they all have the little updates icon, whether or not you tried to update, the updates fail, then the machine says it needs rebooted, after reboot it says it needs the same failed update.
Old or not, thats retarded, and all the credit goes to Windows and to MS, credit where due man.
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
Yes, yes, point taken. I'm not defending them, just thought I would point out that there has been progress made in the whole update thing from my point of view. I'll try to keep my posts more MS negative in the future :P
RE: Why I love Windows so . . . one simple image
@I'll try to keep my posts more MS negative in the future :P
LOL
Yeah, you do that tough guy.
Helpline is an Arsehole
A helpline in South Yorkie County is at the centre of a sex scandal after leaked reports revealed they have been investigated on numorous occasions for sexually harrassment.
Other reports say the helpline Sheffield Gayphone drove a British Actor out of the City of Sheffield after they launched a hate campaign against him and sent death threats.
The South Yorkie County helpline has already been under scrutiny after a government website revealed they had received £10,000 grant from the UK National Lottery Charities Board. The authorities have also revealed they give them £2000 a year, but despite complaints about sexual harrassment continue to receive this grant.
People in the County of South Yorkie are angry and want answers.
The helpline has been laughed at in the past for claiming they run a professional service but their helpline number ends in 69 69.
Just do a google search on Sheffield gayphone, how appalling