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Forgotten what Linux is?

Fair enough point that Linux is the kernel, to be precisely technically correct. I guess I when I said "Linux" environment, I could have better termed that "x86 Unix-y environment," that I agree with. But I think it is you who have missed the larger point - Linux is what you *use* it for in the sense that I was speaking.

To you, or anyone compiling their own kernel, or working with embedded devices, or tweaking file I/O and threads or what not, it's more about the kernel - true. Nevertheless, to 99% of user's it's about what they run on it (sure they need the OS, filesystem, security, device drivers, I/O, etc, but that is the foundation, it's not the foreground task).

My point was about what I use it for, and that's what the "great aunt" or "neighbor" test relates to as well. When I constantly had to recompile my audio support with every kernel update, or rebuild Mplayer from source to get the codecs I wanted, or any number of other frankly annoying tasks from a USERS perspective - I quit using Linux on my x86 laptop. I still use it heavily for X86 servers, but even there the reason I use it is performance/security/open aspect along with the fact that it runs my Java apps, runs Apache httpd, runs my Sendmail, and so on - it's about more than the "kernel" in the big picture.

Apple has their own problems, yes, agreed (I hate a lot of the things they do as a company too - but I can often understand why they do them, such as the DRM crap in iTunes - whereas I also dislike Microsoft for a lot of their corporate moves, but their motive often seems a bit more underhanded [and because their products are not as good in my real world experience in terms of reliability and security]).

The bottom line though, is that my Apple laptop works really damn well, it has the UI polish I want, and the audio player works with the current kernel - and that kernel is also Unix based which makes my day to day development life a lot more productive. The "safer and better" part is accurate and applies, to BOTH Linux and OS X (and frankly also to other open/free BSDs, and other x86 unix offshoots).

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