My Personal HDTV Saga

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HDTV signals are most often received over the air? I had no idea about this until recently. Recently I got a new TV that can do the "HDTV" thing and so I started looking into it more. Turns out my expensive "digital" cable is really really really (did I say really) crappy. The picture quality is horrible on a nice TV and nothing on the entire network is "HDTV" even though its digital. This is the first thing I didnt understand. I thought digital was HD quality, not so. I also thought digital meant a good picture, not so. Also it turns out that while DirecTV has a few HD channels most people even with DirecTV use the "Over the Air" HDTV broadcasts from local channels. Thats right, over the air. Most local channels nowadays have an HD broadcast. In my area ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TBS, WB, UPN, PAX (hooray, they actually have 4 channels, yippee!), UNI (hooray Spanish style!) and several others actually have HD broadcasts. So how do you receive an HD broadcast? You buy an HDTV "capable" or "ready" TV right? Well thats part of it. You have to either buy a TV with an HDTV tuner built in, or buy a "set top box" HDTV tuner. Then once you have the tuner you have to climb on the roof or into the attic about 65 times until you get your new antenna in the perfect position. Thats right, you will once again have an antenna on the roof (or in the attic). You determine which antenna you need and what channels are in your area using antennaweb.org. Its a site setup by the manufacturers of said antennas and supporters of the HDTV thing. antennaweb is a great resource. The antenna thing has been very rough for me. I bought a big multi directional cheap antenna at Home Depot and mounted in in several locations in the attic. It worked on some channels, not on others. So then I spent a hundred bucks on the fancy Terk TV55. The TV55 works about the damn same as the cheap one. Moving it around I can get all channels, but its sort of inconvenient to climb the ladder into the attic and move it (I prefer just clicking a remote control). So my next step will be to mount it outside on the chimney or something. Its an unobtrusive antenna, so it wont look like arse, and hopefully that will help reception. I might fall of the roof and break both my legs trying, but dammit I am going to get all the channels! So again, long story short, the antenna thing is a pain. So the next thing I learn is that once you have a monitor, a tuner and an antenna, and you are now looking at HD broadcasts and they look pretty good, not all programming is shot with an HD setup (HD camera or whatever it is) because only a few specifically HD targeted programs REALLY look good. Thankfully CBS football looks AWESOME and supposedly so does ABC on Monday Night (we shall see tonight). All of the trouble (and expense, which BTW it mus t be mentioned wives love to bring up every other half second, its been a great joy for my wife to make fun of how much it costs and to see me crawling into the attic 65 times a day, quite a riot) may indeed be worth it however. The true HD broadcasts on a true HD monitor that can do 1080i resolution are pretty impressive. And if one of your hobbies is watching football in the most impressive and expensive manner possible SHORT of season tickets to a remote city then HDTV is for you. So in all of my trials (which arent over) and my ignorance I am sure I have missed many details or important things. Any real HDTV experts out there that care to offer more pointers or more information please do so.

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A new HDTV this what about last year!!!! Patrick would have love SpaceBalls in HD. I hope you had a great holiday.

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The only thing that I would offer is that I used a plain-jane aerial coupled with a Radio Shack 15-1109 Amplifier aimed properly (check this [url=http://www.atlantadtv.org/]site[/url] for Atlanta, GA peeps) and I was able to get all of the local channels last year when I had the luxury of HDTV (long story short, I'm now waiting on the HDTV DirecTiVo unit.) I was able to hide the aerial, (got the size recommended by atrox's website,) in the attic. Until I got this combination, I was a very unhappy person, but after it all sorted out, it was amazing. I tried all the little gizmos and internal antennas, but none of them worked as well as the good ole aerial. BTW, there is no such thing as an 'HDTV antenna.' That's just marketing. HDTV signals are the exact same as normal TV signals. [%sig%]

Selecting TV antenna for Atlanta, GA

Atlanta is easy for over-the-air reception. All the stations are transmitted from Atlanta downtown from a single location. That means that no matter where you are you won't need a rotator in any case. The only potential pitfall is that NBC is on VHF, so you must have a VHF capable antenna. See the atlanta tv antenna page, all the details you need are there and it is very easy to understand.

Re: My Personal HDTV Saga

very nice, indeed he would. its there now and you are welcome anytime!

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yeah, i am thinking i will return the Terk Tv55 because its NOT any better than others and it costs double. my first antenna was an aerial RCA from home depot. with no amp it was doing alright. still some channels were not there so i figured the terk would work because it was the "heavy duty" one as the best buy guys put it. what did i learn from this, the best buy people know absolutely nothing about anything. i think an attic mounted aerial with amp will solve it. i am still in the struggle though.

UPDATE: My Personal HDTV Saga

OK, so I've mentioned before that I have the best [url=http://screaming-penguin.com/main.php?storyid=2460] wife[/url] ever, and now she's upped the ante. I get to go ahead and get an HDTV receiver via ebay until my dream unit comes in. Should be here this week, I'll keep ya posted. How exciting. [%sig%]

Re: UPDATE: My Personal HDTV Saga

awesome. i went and bought the radio shack over the air amp today. also bought a cable CATV amp because that signal sucks as well. so today i am installing a new outlet, and these amps, in the attic. the amps were like 125 bucks total, the antenna was 100 bucks, my set top box on ebay was 140, damn this new tv "hobby" is getting expensive.

Re: UPDATE: My Personal HDTV Saga

atrox wrote: > damn this new tv "hobby" is getting expensive. Yeah, they have a way of doing that.

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UPDATE, i returned the Terk TV55, its officially a piece of crap. I am getting a channelmaster soon. the radio shack amp did help, but i hear (atlanta HDTV sites) that the channelmaster 777x amps are better. i still dont have my setup working, royal pain. but i did get monday night football tuned in, and ABC broadcasts at 720p and it looks killer. great stuff.

You really don't need a 7777

You really don't need a 7777 amp. You are so close to the towers, why do you need a pre-amp? Just dump the Terk TV55, and pick a small outdoor antenna, it will work fine. No preamps. In fact a pre-amp can even worsen the reception if teh signals are too strong in your area.

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My T151 tuner is supposed to get here today. I won't be able to set it up tonight, but this weekend should provide for some entertainment.

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ahhh yeah, 151 is a great model (from what i read, i have the 150, older but still good). i signed up for Dish yesterday. i know i will hear some static from the "DirecTV evangelists" but the Dish was a better deal. it looks like DirecTV has better hardware and software, but Dish has better prices, and right now I need the price advantage (and the Dish hardware/software is not that far behind). i am getting one HD reciever, on DVR reciever and one standard reciever from Dish. this will catapult me into the modern age in one fell swoop. HDTV, PVR (DVR) and so on. the HDTV reciever looks pretty cool, it can do the satellite HD AND over the air (so i likely wont need the 150 anymore). and the DVR stuff looks cool but they DONT have 2 tuners right now (lame, cant watch one show and record another, unless i use a std reciever AND the DVR at one tv, which I may do). so we shall see how the dish performs, i have 3 days to send it all back after its installed. i just want this tv game to be over really, want a decent picture for normal channels, and some HD offerings via satellite/cable AND the local channels in HD over the air (which happens to be the best quality of anything you will get), so i hope the damn Dish works well.

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You can't get HDTV over cable there yet? That was the easiest option for me. So far I only have ABC,CBS,DiscoveryHD,2 HBO's and 2 ShowTimes but it's a start...

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Got the 151 and got it setup. I get UPN and another local non-affiliate very well. CBS comes in with no trouble, NBC comes in pretty well, and FOX and ABC (the two I am most interested in) have their fairly-frequent moments of losing the signal. I'm pretty sure that the only thing that I can do to improve it at this point is to put the aerial up outside. This would violate the only unbreakable rule that my wife has. No wires can be visible. We'll see how it goes this weekend. If there is too much droppage-nitude, then I'll have to see how unbreakable that rule is.

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no i cant! dammit! my cable company sucks ass (i hate to mention names but the founder/CEO of Adelphia cable, in jail for fraud, John Rigas, happens to own the lame ass company that is the only game in town in my area). also i hear that the resolution is not as good on cable or satellite? that may be hogwash but i have read in a few forums that they dont provide full res 1080i or 720p because of bandwith? and i actually like the idea of the over the air stuff. it looks awesome in HDTV when it tunes (and i will get that fixed) and i am splicing it so that all tvs can use the ota stuff if the cable or satellite goes out, etc. all through coax off the antenna, same airwaves so its kinda cool.

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let me know if you want help man. i had a hell of a time running up to the attic, then back to check the tv and so on. not to mention getting stuff up into the attic and the like (i had one ladder to get into the attic and another on boards IN the attic to get to the underside of the roof as high as possible). i will come over and help if you want, but you have to do the same for me once the new antenna shows up ;)

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deal.

SUCCESS!!!!!: My Personal HDTV Saga

Well, I had to violate the "no outdoor antenna" rule, but I now have all the local channels in crystal clear DTV. I watched UGA get their asses handed to them last night in detail so great that I could see the hairs on the forementioned asses. The 5.1 audio is hellacool as well. They piped the announcers voices through the front 3 speakers, the croud through the back speakers, and even the PA through the right rear. Talk about an immersive experience. I love this stuff. Put this on the Geek Christmas list, for sure.

SUCCESS!!! (Mostly)

I did NOT end up getting Dish, its a long story but suffice to say their customer service sucked ass SO BADLY that they got fired before they even got anything installed. Anyway, the HD part is working really well now, via OTA. I bought a ChannelMaster antenna and amp at lowes, works better than anything I have had yet and its my fourth antenna/amp combo. Its still in the attic, but its a big ole Yagi and the ChannelMaster amp is +25Db (purportedly). With this setup I get ABC, CBS, FOX (the NFL trio), UPN, UNI, WB and TBS with no issues (about 50%-60% signal according to the on screen meter of the set top box, but zero dropouts, works perfectly). The only issue I have is that I DONT get NBC. However, thats not really much of an issue considering they dont have NFL. I will adjust the antenna some more, but the setup is mostly ready at this point.

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Yo, read everything up to 12-15-03. Have you got it up and running since then? I'm in NC and have all the main HD OTA signals available. Just starting the antenna testing phase. Sounds like outdoor is going to be the best bet. Saw you mentioned Channel Master...have you tried/heard anything about the Channel Master 3000 Suburban Outdoor Amplified Omnidirectional SMARTenna (CM3000A)? I was wondering if the omni directional would eliminate the need to redirect the antenna? Also, claims to support the full spectrum...just looking for any help in NC.

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